Sixty Forever

Rogue

0 Assassination

0 Combat

0 Subtlety

51 points left

10 level

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Legend: 11 new in Forever. 32 changed vs Classic. Gold arrow: prerequisite met.

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Every Rogue trainer spell, rank by rank (the spellbook, with tooltips)

8 Classic talents removed or replaced in Forever
  • Murder (Assassination, row 2, 2 ranks): Increases all damage caused against Humanoid, Giant, Beast and Dragonkin targets by 1%.
  • Improved Backstab (Combat, row 2, 3 ranks): Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 10%.
  • Dagger Specialization (Combat, row 4, 5 ranks): Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Daggers by 1%.
  • Mace Specialization (Combat, row 5, 5 ranks): Increases your skill with Maces by 1, and gives you a 1% chance to stun your target for 3 sec with a mace.
  • Fist Weapon Specialization (Combat, row 5, 5 ranks): Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Fist Weapons by 1%.
  • Sleight of Hand (Subtlety, row 2, 2 ranks): Reduces the chance you are critically hit by melee and ranged attacks by 1% and increases the threat reduction of your Feint ability by 10%.
  • Improved Sap (Subtlety, row 4, 3 ranks): Gives you a 30% chance to return to stealth mode after using your Sap ability.
  • Deadliness (Subtlety, row 6, 5 ranks): Increases your Attack Power by 2%.

Baseline ability changes seen so far

EnergyComes back 1 point every 0.1 sec, 10 a second: Classic's rate with no tick to wait for. From the Energy tooltip and Blizzard's Class Highlights video (3:41).
MutilateNew talent, at the bottom of Assassination (row 7) since Blizzard's 2 Nov notes: both weapons at 90% weapon damage each plus 36 at rank 1 (75% before), 20% more on poisoned targets, 2 combo points. Remorseless Attacks, Lethality, Cold Blood, Puncturing Wounds and Opportunity name it.
VenomNew talent, Assassination row 5, and a passive since Blizzard's 2 Nov notes, no longer a finisher: your new Shank raises your poison damage by 30% and your chance to apply poisons by 20% for 6 sec.
AxesRogues can use one-handed axes now. The Hack and Slash talent lists Axe/Sword as a weapon group.

Talent text: talentsforever.com (CC BY 4.0), from the WoW Forever beta client's data files (build 1.60.1.70755). Seeded from talentsforever.com (CC BY 4.0); prerequisites marked in the tooltip when taken from wowforevertalents.com.